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I am wondering if there is a photography person out there who could help me with a problem. I resized all my photos slightly smaller as I don't need large files and for other reasons....but after I finished the entire job, all the photos were done and neatly packed in little folders and I was very pleased with myself....I thought I would take another look at them and to my shock they were all pixelated..every single one...if you look at the sky in the above picture you will see how it has various colored dots in it....it is not as apparent in this small size but larger it looks really really bad. I am not sure that pixelated is an actual word as the spell check does not like it but you will know what I mean as you are all smart right. I have no idea why the Adobe resizer would do this......I really would like any advice as to why pictures will pixelate when making them slightly smaller......not larger from a small file but smaller from a larger file.....ok I am sitting and waiting. Oh and you may be seeing more of these amazing pixelated photos on the blog as I can't find the originals of some of them either. Waiting.....
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What other programs do you use for managing your photos? Will any of them do re-sizing?
For a while, I re-sized as needed for use, but kept the full-size original as well. That got unwieldy, and now I upload my photos to Flickr. Then I can take the size I want from their "All sizes" option, and the photos seem to work fine.
I found a few photography blogs, some of which are on my Google Reader. One that is particularly helpful is the digitalPhotographySchool, dPS.
As well, on Flickr (have you registered there?) you can find a variety of photography groups, each one centered around some particular subject. Quite a few of them have discussion boards that deal with issues such as this.
Poke around, look for "bird photography", or "eagle photography", or "Vancouver Island", etc. Look for a largish group, where there will be a good likelihood of having some real expertise available. Join up, and ask your question.
Hope that helps. It is so frustrating to find all your good work undone by the software!
when I download the landscape below (1175) and expand it in paint I see some lines and square in the sky. And on the eagle to the left there seems to be uneven lines.
is that what you mean? do you have the originals?
I reduce useing Paint.
Hi there. I popped over to your site after seeing your comment on Pete's blog (quacks of life).
Which program are you using? Looks like you have a case of too much .jpg compression. See:
http://graphicssoft.about.com/od/glossary/g/jpegartifacts.htm for some info about how this happens when you over-compress images. Did you do this as a batch resize? That could have something to do with why this happened - the default setting could be a bit to much compression.
If this has never happened before, it could be that something has changed on your computer recently that has changed how your photos are edited and saved. Check that you are saving your images at a high enough resolution. Never save over the original, then you will be able to go back if something goes wrong - it's like your 'digital negative'. Save them on an external drive if necessary, but never delete them altogether thinking you won't need them. External hard drives are cheap enough these days.
I hope I'm not telling you things you already know!
As for useful forums:
http://photo.net/
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/index.php (for Canon users)
http://www.digi-darkroom.com/index.php?
http://www.ephotozine.com/forums
http://www.photography-cafe.com/forum/index.php
http://www.photosig.com/go/forums;jsessionid=aKEFGZclKrE8Al5rmZ
http://thephotoforum.com/forum/index.php
That may be enough to get you started! I don't frequent them all. Some appear to cater for more experienced photographers.
Regards
Diane
I think maybe you should have named this post "Nightmare in Vancouver!" Maybe someone will know how to help.
Hi Ocean,
I'm not the biggest expert but I'm thinking it's just in the resizing of your photos. Not any real error. I'm assuming that in the original there is no pixelating unless you zoom wayyyy in. I will be interested in hearing what others have to say.
Other than that I think I've been here before and enjoyed you blog.
I can see the problem,that's a bummer.Unfortunately I am far from a proffessional.Wish I could help,hopefully someone will have an answer.
i can't tell you how to on photographs.. i'm not by any means an expert! but i did enjoy the photo. good luck!
IR: No help here but if that is all in real time in the photo it is amazing.
I fail to see any pixelation/granularity in your eagle/gull shot (full size).
Environment: FireFox; Windows XP, Screen resolution 1280*1024; 32 bit color.
Are you sure that the problem you see is not an artifact of your computer settings?
very unusual photo - need an air traffic controller ha Sandy
I can not give you the answer you are looking for but I am sure there's two ways of resizing a picture... one dose just what it says.. resizers the whole shot... and the other resizers the pixels as well. I'm sure that no matter what the program you are usings, the 'Help' section will explain this... if not a trip to google might give you what you want...
I hope you get it sorted out.
Tom
sorry, I don't know anything about pixelation. But I know these look like a couple of unhappy eagles.
When did you put it on CC? I know the date is Sunday's , but I must have missed it. Just finding it now.
Just went back and found you - #89. But when I clicked on it, it loaded for an extremely long time. Maybe something is wrong there. I see you still have "0" comments, even though I had left one for you earlier. I'll check and see later if it published.
Thanks everyone for these comments, I was delayed a little in publishing them, sorry about that. I am learning a lot from your comments so please keep them coming if you know anything about pixels and resizing...I still have not resolved the problem...it definitely is in the resizer and not in the original pictures or the crop of them though..grrrrrr
My page was not loading very well and I think my link at cc is not working either....
I am having kinda a bad week this week....
THANKS TO THE NEW READERS WHO COMMENTED!!!
Great blog with some fantastic pics. Thanks for sharing
Cheers
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I will ditto Fishing Guy's comment. Don't know what you should do, but amazing shot!
Thanks so much for the visit...I will slowly but surely visit back to all your blogs ....it takes me a while though...I really appreciate the photo people who explained so much to me: Diane that was an amazing great comment and I will check it out..I have gone to the webpage and found the page....Weeta, thanks so much for those ideas also, I will check out those links also.
IR, I could not see the pix problem when I enlarged the photo. I would guess that it may be your monitor also. I have been told many times to save my original files before I edit,crop, etc. still don't but really probably should.
All I can suggest is using a different program to shrink your images. I use photoshop elements 6 now or just plane old paint. It doesn't pixelate on me... sorry i couldn't be of more help. as for forums I see you have been given several wonderful ones to choose from.. take your time and you will find a good fit and get tons of useful advice..
thanks Stacey, really appreciate your visit as I love love your site...I think the pixelation is more evident on a larger sample, I should have put it in larger on the host....I am trying a new resizer now and it seems to work sometimes but I probably should learn what digibirder(Diane) and Weeta are talking about up there - digibirder says "too much jpg compression" but I am not sure yet how to lower the compression on Adobe Batch Resizer or what compression is so I am just hoping the new resizer will work magically for me....there is so much to learn in digital photography and blogging and I am taking you all along on my learning curve or journey.
Compression and resolution is a bit of a nightmare to get right! I'm sure I sometimes get it wrong, but I mostly get reasonable results. I use Adobe Photoshop and have never used the batch processing facility, but I've just checked it and there are options to choose the size/compression when creating the resize action. I'm not sure which program you are using, but you should be able to set the compression ratio in the program preferences, either before or during the resize process. I'm baffled as to why you are only just having this problem, though. Unless it has happened before and you've only just spotted it.
Here's more info on compression: http://www.scantips.com/basics9jb.html - a little more extreme than your photo.
Basically, the more you save and resave your original as you edit it, the more quality it loses (JPG is known as 'lossy' compression. That is why it's preferable to work on a copy. You will never be able to get that original back if you keep saving over it. I sometimes shoot in RAW format, then save that as a TIF (keeping the RAW file as well on a separate external hard drive or DVD-ROM), which is very high 'lossless' quality, and use that as my 'digital negative', performing whatever edits I need, and then save the final copy as JPG. When posting to the web, I save the image using the 'Save for Web' option, but I still have those original RAW/TIF files should I ever want to print out the photo.
have you tried paint does the same problem occur?
Island Rambles,
I don't see a problem. Maybe it's too late this evening for me to think. I only see a FANTASTIC PHOTO!
Mary
Hi digibirder, Pete and Mary...
Thanks digibirder, hope that back is better today....I see the place to put in the resolution on the Adobe Batch Resizer but do not know what on earth (what numbers) to put in there so I am going to that link that you gave me....
Diane is helping us all progress with her info on Jpg...I never knew it was lossy...I think I will save my originals now...I am thankful to learn this stuff now before I make more of a mess of things..
Hey Pete, I needed a break from it all so have not gone into Paint and tried it...I tried this new resizer that is FREE and it seemed to work...I need to do large batches of many many pics..I will tell you the name of the resizer if you all want to get it...
Oh Mary, Oh Oh, she came to my site..I always go to her site every day...she has a new camera that is really incredible and has vultures today...Thanks Mary...
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Going through Blog Avoidance Period:
I will try to get a blog together in the next day or so but I am avoiding it and just wandering around reading your blogs...
perhaps I will just keep writing comments on this blog forever!!!
I never resize the photos and save over. I always save the originals as there is plenty of space available for very cheap price. An external harddrive of 500GB costs very little these days and your computer may also be able to store a lot of them until it´s full. If you have saved over originals, then there unfortunately is no way to get back the original quality. If you resized them just a little bit, that may be the problem. If your pics width was, say, 2000 pixels and you resized it to 1900 then the resizing is so small that something gets pixelated. It´s better to resize them more (2000=1000) to get better results. Also there might be too much jpeg-compression in your pic. Usually just 10% compression from maximum is enough. It brings the filesize down to one quarter but the quality is still very good.
Funny birds, help! Ha haa...
Oh my Chrome3D showed up too...he has a really wonderful site to go to ...go there right away and see it...
Thanks Chrome...boy this is sure a great way to learn about photo stuff ---I just put it in my blog and the universe brings me blogger- photographers to help...
so 10% compression is good and resizing small amounts not good, more resizing works better than less...and save your originals...save save...
and jpg is lossy, who would have known that...
This is the crash course in pixels 101..put all those originals on your external hard drive.
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